Caitlyn Jenner Could Face Manslaughter Charge in Deadly Malibu Crash
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Caitlyn Jenner could be charged with manslaughter following her car accident in Malibu earlier this year that left one dead.
“The case will be submitted to the district attorney next week,” said Lt. Shaun Mathers of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
Detectives have ended their six-month investigation and are set to present evidence to the prosecution that could lead to a misdemeanor manslaughter charge against the “I Am Cait” starlet. Because there’s “nothing indeed egregious” in the case, Det. Richard Curry of the Sheriff’s Dept. said there’s a “50/50” chance that she will be charged.
A misdemeanor manslaughter charge usually carries a one-year county jail sentence.
Jenner was driving down Pacific Coast Highway on Feb. Seven at an unsafe speed when her Escalade hit another vehicle, causing a chain-reaction crash, authorities said. Curry charged that Jenner’s disturbance of the vehicular manslaughter law ultimately led to a death.
“My heartfelt and deepest sympathies go out to the family and loved ones, and to all of those who were involved or injured in this terrible accident,” Jenner said in a statement a day after the accident. “It is a devastating tragedy, and I cannot pretend to imagine what this family is going through at this time. I am pleading for them. I will proceed to cooperate in every way possible.”
Albeit Jenner was not speeding, she was driving too quick for the day’s road conditions.
According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.
Steindorff and Howe’s family separately sued Jenner, claiming that her negligence was to blame for the fatal crash. Steindorff alleges that she suffered more than $25,000 in damages.
Detectives will also present evidence to the L.A. County District Attorney’s Office against Steindorff, as she was driving on a suspended license at the time.
The accident occurred months before Jenner’s gender transition. She was formerly known as Bruce Jenner, the gold medalist in the boys’s decathlon at the one thousand nine hundred seventy six Summer Olympics, stepfather of the Kardashian clan and starlet of the hit E! reality series “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”
If Jenner is charged, her E! docuseries “I Am Cait” will not be affected, as the very first season has packaged production, with the finale set to air on Sept. 13.
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Does Jenner even feel guilty, he was on his cell and he lied about it. If it was one of us commoners we would be in jail
Um, the car in the picture is not an Escalade, it’s a Hummer.
jenner was driving an escalade,the hummer was the vehicle he shoved her car infront of..did you even read the article?
i spotted the crash, you was responsable, what eva u call ur self, u are guilty of manslaughter,vehichliar, are you gonna buy ur self out of this. how much,, i need vacation,,sicko, u need to right this wrong, u know u was on phone, we has movie,and picks, u sicko,oh ms pyhco. ya tuck ur nuts in jail,
BUCKLE UP BUCKAROOS
they only sued her because she’s rich; they were already crashed into each other before she came along. its called a pile up, she didnt cause manslaughter.
The “Woman of the Year” still hasn’t undergone lovemaking switch surgery, and so, is still very much a man.
The recipient of a “Bravery” award killed a woman through negligence, and avoided charges because of wealth and connections.
When did we embark living in Opposite Land??
Jenner should face charges and serve time just like anyone else,it doesn’t switch anything because he got some Doctor to attempt and convert him into a woman ,in God’s eyes he is a man
I think that Bruse jenne became Cati because he didn’t want to be found in fault of the car accident. I assured if it was a normal citizen they would’ve been found guilty and charges would’ve been brought up.for driving over the speed limit then what was safe for traffic at that time. That just shows the American people that people that live in the spotlight and Amos very first you do reality shows are able to get away with a lot more then regular citizens.
How can Caitlan Jenner be virginal she did rear end the vehicle in front of her.
The photo above isn’t the accident? The article says it’s a Cadillac, but the pic shows a H2.
Why dose it matter who you are and how much money you have murder is murder do we have a pay scale on murder WAKE UP crime dose pay it pays everybody salary and the victim gets death penalty
so as soon as he/her identifies/becomes a “woman”, he/she crashes his/her car?? too funny (aside from the person dying because of it of course)…were there no fatalities, this would have been one of the funniest things I’ve seen…and if you’re PC, you’re an idiot…a dyed-in-the-wool, liberally grown moron…I don’t need stupid people to force me to be nice to everyone…I can do that all on my own thank you…(yes, even transgender personages)…but becoming a woman and then crashing your car is just classic…and if anyone gets offended by this, TOLERATE it…
Post gets overly defensive prompt…should tell you something… 😛
Everyone involved in the accident can be issued a ticket for failure to control your vehicle.
Most Latest Update: AS OF 07:26 A.M., SEPTEMBER 6, 2015, THE LA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS CONCLUDED THE CASE REVIEW OF THE FEBRUARY 7, two thousand fifteen BRUCE JENNER, AKA CAITLYN JENNER, MALIBU CRASH CASE AND HAS JUST UPGRADED A PREVIOUS ARREST WARRANT TO A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR CAITLYN JENNER, AKA BRUCE JENNER. UPON BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY THE LOS ANGELES SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, BRUCE WILL BE CHARGED WITH FELONY VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER. THERE IS A MANDATORY ONE YEAR MINIMUM JAIL SENTENCE FOR THIS CRIME. BRUCE JENNER WILL THEN BE INCARCERATED AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY Fellows’S CENTRAL JAIL, SINCE, TO THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT Ended HIS Total GENDER REASSIGMENT SURGERY, STILL HAS HIS Masculine GENITALIA, PENIS AND TESTICLES, AND THEREFORE CONSIDERED TO STILL RETAIN HIS BIRTH GENDER, UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
“Little Billy” here is a liar, thinks that putting it all in caps will make it seem real. no charges yet, and the only charge recommended is misdemeanor, NOT felony, vehicular manslaughter. there is NO arrest warrant at all, as charges have NOT been filed. there is a MAXIMUM one year jail time for this charge, and with her record, most lawyers are telling she might not get any jail time, much less the maximum.
also while the penal system still has not caught up to present day standards, in a lot of state, and for the federal government you do NOT need to have SRS to get your gender marker switched now, and California is one of them, i know as i am switching mine as we speak>
so “little Billy” go back and play in the hate packed sand box ok? leave the posting to the adults around here.
It was traveling rapid enough to budge the very first vehicle into oncoming traffic then travel far enough to strike a 2nd vehicle several feet further. It should be charged with manslaughter and jailed if guilty.
Update: AS OF 8:26 A.M., SEPTEMBER one 2015, THE LA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS CONCLUDED THE CASE REVIEW OF THE FEBRUARY 7, two thousand fifteen BRUCE JENNER, AKA CAITLYN JENNER, MALIBU CRASH CASE AND HAS JUST UPGRADED A PREVIOUS ARREST WARRANT TO A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR CAITLYN JENNER, AKA BRUCE JENNER. UPON BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY THE LOS ANGELES SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, BRUCE WILL BE CHARGED WITH FELONY VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER. THERE IS A MANDATORY ONE YEAR MINIMUM JAIL SENTENCE FOR THIS CRIME. BRUCE JENNER WILL THEN BE INCARCERATED AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY Dudes’S CENTRAL JAIL, SINCE, TO THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT Finished HIS Total GENDER REASSIGMENT SURGERY, STILL HAS HIS Masculine GENITALIA, PENIS AND TESTICLES, AND THEREFORE CONSIDERED TO STILL RETAIN HIS BIRTH GENDER, UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
He should also go to jail for killing Bruce Jenner.
um wrong, unless you have a crystal ball, it is MISDEMEANOR involuntary manslaughter. go put your hate to more use, and dig some crevices or something as useful.
you thinking taking ass-fuck lovemaking makes a woman feel more natural just goes to demonstrate how messed up your little mind is
This is a horrible tragedy but after all is said and done, I am thinking, “are you kidding me?” She wasn’t speeding or doing anything illegal and she stopped and cooperated this entire time. It was a chain reaction and the two cars that hit and were hit BEFORE her are attempting to sue her? She should have slowed down for existing conditions? Let’s charge all car drivers for not driving the guessed speed limit for existing conditions. And what a misleading title to this website! I would HATE to be famous. SOME people are like vultures. She’s is being targeted ONLY because she is famous and more so because she is transgender.
Karen, i just spotted the movie you are talking about, all the movies i have seen demonstrate Steindorff slowed, or stopped, but i have only seen a “recreation” demonstrating Howe hitting Steindorff. she did stop/slow causing Howe to do the same, and CJ didnt see it in time, for whatever reason, to stop. but if you look at this movie, you need to close the stupid add bubbles on the left, then restart the movie, you can see that the Lexus is not close enough to hit the prius BEFORE CJ hit her. I am on CJ’s side, but in this case she did hit HOWE into Steindorff, then into oncoming traffic. not telling its purposefull, or even her fault i think it more rests on Steindorff, a twenty nine year old talent agent that is on her 2nd suspended license, where CJ is sixty five with none that i have heard of, or even DUI etc. if there were, it would be all over the news by now. people CAN make dumb mistakes, and from original statement, she said she was attempting to get away from some Paparazzi, for which the police said there is no evidence of them being there, except there are claims they have pics of her on the PHONE while driving. so either at a different time, or they WERE there, and that was why she was dispersed, them pursuing her. NOT a valid reason for going too quick, but it all adds into why she didnt notice the slow down in time.
if you witness, there is NO harm to the lexus on the front until it collides with the hummer.
Your gender is determined by your reproductive organs.
Caitlyn Jenner is a transexual, not a woman.
And to your last point. She will only get off for this charge because she is an icon to social justice warriors, the true dregs of society.
Teresa, I observed the movie again and again. What movie are you observing? The one that ET came out with only shows the moment Jenner hit the Lexus, which shoved it into oncoming traffic and then the Hummer hit the Lexus. This article clearing explains that the Lexus hit the Prius before Jenner hit the Lexus. Also, Jenner was going thirty eight miles per hour at the time and pulling a trailor. Along with the Mercedes, that is a lot of weight to stop instantly. It is Howe’s step-children and Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner.
“According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”
and david, go get a real life why dont you. no GENDER is NOT determined by reproductive organs, Hook-up is. Gender is mental/soul, biological hookup is different. that is the basic definition of a transsexual, someone who gender and biological lovemaking do not match, and some take medical steps to correct this, some dont. as far as the law is worried, if she has done the decent steps she is female, just as i am. if she has or hasnt had her bottom surgery, it doesnt matter to anyone, except any bed playmate she might have.
if she is found to be at fault enough for a trial, they will, she is a celebrity, and DA’s love to get their pics in the paper being “harsh” on crime. but as the police say, or a lawyer, cant recall which, they only prosecute misdemeaners like this 50% of the time.
Karen, if you witness the movie, it shows a different story. it shows the Prius STOPPED, which ultimately caused the accident. the very first contact was CJ hitting the back of Howe’s car, who then hit Steindorff, then CJ hit Steindorff after that. Howe is dead, charging her is a no go, Steindorff is being charged with driving on a suspended (as far as i have seen or heard).
so only CJ was “driving to quick/unsafely for road conditions”, both of the other drivers had NO license, at least valid one, Howes was expired, according to reports, for eight YEARS. so since both were on suspended licenses, unnecessary to say, they were NOT insured. so that leaves CJ to pay the bills all the way around
You just proved my point with your comment. They were all driving too rapid for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the Very first vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the very first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family? Hello
“According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”
um, NO. she is Caitlyn NOW, it is being reported NOW, for legal purposes the police are using the decent forms for when the accident happened, but the charges, if filed will include both names, one as her legal name, the other as an “alias” as her former name. sorry that is how the law works. all the reports, etc from then say “he” and “Bruce” but if she has legally switched her name, they cant file charges against Bruce as he legally does not exist. when switching the name, they ask if you are (at least in AZ where i did mine, but i am from California) if you are doing this to evade any FELONY charges. at the time no charges were filed, and still arent, and the only ones sent to the DA were misdemeanor so they will HAVE to use HER name, NOT the old one, again if it has LEGALLY been switched.
also its an ACCIDENT, not a malicious attack, so please keep your knicker out of a bunch. someone died, she has to live with that. i will tell you know she IS dealing with it, just because you dont see it.
definately she should be charged ..but because she is a a celebrity she will get off ..
all the legal stuff says they only charge on this 50% of the time on average. and even if they do, the maximum is one year jail, so not likely to get that even. i figure some kind of probation, maybe some time in local jail at most.
If Bruce Jenner was driving unsafely for the road conditions, then yes, he should be charged. You are responsible for what happens when you are behind the wheel in the majority of instances. Sometimes crank accidents happen, but if he was driving securely for the conditions, this likely would not have happen. He is worth to be charged and subsequently disciplined for his role in that woman’s death.
Karen Stimson Jay says:
If what you write were right then all involved should be disciplined for not doing the best thing in the blink of an eye. We would all be getting disciplined for not reacting rapid enough when someone instantly puts on the brakes.
They were all driving too swift for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the Very first vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the very first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family? This is why I would HATE being famous and or different!! Vultures everywhere!
“According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”
yes SHE should be if they feel it is adequate. and what about the prius driver who STOPPED (observe the movie and see) which caused howe (lexus driver) to stop, both of who SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVING to begin with. yep totally all the fault of Caitlyn. she wasnt speeding, but was driving “unsafely for road conditions) yet they never say what the road conditions are, other than the open up of road is “tricky and curvy”
sorry i i come off intense, but tired of the a**hats calling it murder, etc, etc because of their hate, and your misgendering is putting YOU in the same category.
Karen Stimson Jay says:
August 26, two thousand fifteen at 1:59 pm
They were all driving too swift for the conditions on the road which caused the woman who died to crash into the Very first vehicle. Almost everybody does that without thinking, especially if you aren’t aware of the condition before someone slams on their brakes. Why aren’t they charging all involved? Why is the family of the woman that died, Kim Howe, suing Jenner, when she hit the very first vehicle because of the same thing? Why is Jessica Steindorff suing Jenner and not Kim Howe’s family?
“According to authorities, Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. A Hummer then struck Howe’s car head-on, causing her to die at the scene near Corral Canyon Road.”
edieppa2, i never said it was, and the decent term is misdemeanor involuntary manslaughter, which if their evidence proves out, sounds adequate. I am a transwoman, and if you check my postings i support her, but running from paparazzi is NOT an excuse to crack the law, but i do think that paparazzi should be covered under some kind of stalking law
It wasn’t murder, it was vehicular manslaughter.
America, the laughing stock of the world. Caitlyn Jenner, hero murderer.
Here’s the bottom line: Bruce Jenner recklessly caused the death of another because he chose to drive unsafely, but he has nothing to worry about. Why? Because he did what he was asked and has played his role well.
Here is how I see it. Kim Howe didn’t have a license at all to drive so if he was following the law he wouldn’t have been on the road driving and that person would be alive. It wasn’t like it was expired I believe it was suspended for some reason. So as far as I am concern you break the law why should you or your family benefit for something that happen to you. It is like someone cracking into your home hurts themselves an can actually sue the homeowner I have seen cases like that. I believe if you are violating the law of any sort family nor the person should benefit anything.
Sharon, Police charged Jessica Steindorff without having the decent license, not Kim Howe, the woman that died in the collision. Howe made a mistake in rear ending Steindorff but it was Jenner that then hit Howe and caused her car into the oncoming lane, and her death.
it has been found that HOWE also didnt have a valid license, according to reports, for eight YEARS. Steindorff, if you observe the movie, it shows the car in front of her moving but SHE is NOT, there is a metal pole, while the bus point of view is moving, her relation to that pole is not, or hardly at all, hard to say with stop movability camera’s but it doesnt emerge she is moving at all, so Howe had to stop to avoid hitting her, and if Jenner WAS dispelled by the paparazzi could be why she didnt see it in time to stop, etc. police say there is no evidence, but supposedly they have pics of her on the phone, most likely calling to who ever about THEM, the paparazzi. if they have these photos, then they WERE there, and WERE pursuing her, so the polices statement is in error, and the paparazzi should be charged with impeding an investigation, at the minimum.
running from the paparazzi is NOT a valid excuse for the accident, but it IS a contributing factor if Jenner’s statement is correct
I think everyone is confused to how this happened. Here’s some light into what happened.
1.Traffic conditions that day were slow, almost bumper to bumper traffic.
Two.Jenner was coming down the lane at the legal speed limit, Yes, BUT too quick for the flow of traffic. Now it is against the law to travel at accelerated speed boundaries against the flow of traffic, you must always travel at safe speed that’s permissible to the flow of traffic, highway, freeway, and residential. Jenner was moving quicker than traffic permitted her too. So she broke the law. Everyone does it. Everyone attempts to hit LA traffic, it just so happens that this completes up in a car crash.
Now the part everyone is confused on
This is what happened:
Three. Jenner hit Howe in which Howe hit Steindorff. The chain reaction. Jenners car kept on with the traction and shoved Howe into the opposite oncoming traffic which resulted in Howe getting hit by the hummer and killing her. After Jenners car shoved Howe out the way, her car continued and hit Steindorff.
Now some of you say they were driving without licenses, which is against the law, but Howe and Steindorff we’re not at fault of the crash. Jenner was. Even If they did have licenses Jenner would still be at fault for creating the crash.
I was once youthfull and dumb and drove with no license and no insurance and I was hit head on by a driver driving at a high speed against the flow of traffic, and I won the case in court because the other person broke the law. But I was fined $1,500 for no license and $300 for no insurance, but I bought insurance the next day and the $300 was diminished to $25. But the other car was liable for crashing into me.
This reminds me so much of my crash back in 2005, and yes Jenner is cooperating, she has too, her status doesn’t exclude her from the rest of us, her crash caused a death, her car shoved another car into oncoming traffic, then continued and slammed into the car in front of that one. Unspoiled recklessness, and Jenner is know for her/his rapid cars, off roading, raceways hobbies, it is a known fact Jenner loves to go rapid, so I don’t put that against her. She’s an prompt adrenaline junkie. I think if she gets jail time then she is worth it.
Thank you for clarifying that. Also, if he was on the phone, as some people stated, it is illegal to drive in California and talk on the cell phone at the same time. So, driving too swift for road conditions and also talking on the cell phone and that woman is dead. I think charges should be filed.
@burbank cop you are correct in most of what you are telling here, but have you observed the, granted not good quality, movie. Steindorff was STOPPED when no one else was, see the road side, there is a metal post for wire fencing, she doesnt budge in relation to it, the bus is, thats all. this cause Howe to slow or stop, i am assuming quickly, and Jenner was not able to stop. the only one who should be able to sue would be howes hubby, or dependent children, NOT estranged children, and NOT steindorff for stopping and causing the unsafe condition to embark with.
I agree one hundred % Sharon. Albeit it’s not funny because someone died –-If my passport expired, Immigration is not going to let me fly. My family are entitled to Zero if I determine to evade the authorities and die because I sneak in with the cargo. Howe hadn’t had a valid license in eight years and they have the nerve to sue. If anything Jenner should be suing them for her being in her way. Gravely however, I think Jenner has been through enough. Jessica Steindorff was driving on a suspended license and is also suing. Perhaps Jenner should be suing her as well, for her also being in her way. We certainly would be looking at a different set of circumstances. I don’t know if anyone else see it this way, but aren’t we talking about LAWS here .
Article says: “…when her Escalade hit another vehicle…”, but the picture shows a Hummer.
Caitlyn was in the Escalade, the hummer was what the car was shoved into and killed the driver. if you look above the white wrecked car, you can see a dune buggy type vehicle on a trailer, in front of that is caitlyns SUV
“Kim Howe’s Lexus rear-ended Jessica Steindorff’s Toyota Prius, causing Jenner’s Escalade to rear-end Howe’s car, pushing it into oncoming traffic.” WTF? Jenner was third in line how is it heshe’s fault?
in most places, if you rear end someone, it is almost automatically assumed to be your fault, with the investigation finding this other information, i am assuming she was traveling quicker than surrounding traffic is the prevailing conditions she was traveling unsafely for. they dont specify the reason it was considered unsafe speed, when she was under the posted speed limit.
Steindorff is suing because her car was hit by Jenners, even tho’ she was the cause of the accident, she might have a civil case, but i think she is more responsible than Caitlyn is for the death, but the law i think might disagree. i love that the estranged kids are suing, before any blame is even established, much less charges filed. just goes to display its all about the money, nothing more
Jenner is not at fault. Jessica Steindorff is suing . If anything she should go jail, as evidently this was her 2nd suspended sentence. Howe’s family are suing . Maybe they should have ensured she had a valid drivers license (expired eight years). Then again if they were estranged as it says, then maybe they hadn’t seen her in eight years. Take those two out of the equation and there wouldn’t be a case.
Anyone other than Caitlyn Jenner is already in jail awaiting trial for felony manslaughter, with a prayer suggest of ten years CDC on the table. Misdemeanor manslaughter? I never knew there was even such a thing! What next? Misdemeanor rape? The ridiculousness will never end with this country, and the way we cater to celebrities (even worse when political correctness rears its ugly head).
read the law, there is no intent, there was no gross negligence, thats the key factor. and no, just because there is a fatality, unless there is some form of drugs, drinking, etc is anyone instantly put in jail, even then they are released until their very first court date, unless they are determined to be a flight risk, then they might be held, but they have to do that in such a brief period of time, with the backlog in the courts, it is uncommonly done for this kind of incident.
there IS misdemeanor rape, maybe you need to look up some laws, its a class on misdemeanor, statutory rape, an adult with someone 15-17.
displaying unreasoning hate is not our legal system, sorry
This is stupid an ridiculous….. Are u serious u are tell me there are charging this person with possible man slaughter for . Exactly…not for speeding…not for cause the wreck in any way… But for hitting a car tht seemed to b moving in forward moving traffic omg or is it because who it is I’m so mad lol
Slight typo in my original post. What I meant to say is that it’s too bad that the cops don’t believe HIM, as I’m sure he’d be grinning from ear to ear if they did let him off the hook.
The movie clearly shows Jenner slammed into Lexus then jennet slammed into Prius leaving escalade imprint on Prius
the movie als shows that prius STOPPED in the free way, on a curvy road. look up the movie, witness the road side, see the metal post, the car is not moving, but the bus the camera’s are on IS, but if you witness, it is not moving, which is what caused the accident
He, Bruce, had the accident. Now he’s a she so shouldn’t the charge be Womanslaughter? If guilty S/HE should do time in a masculine prison! I bet his parts are still gauze to his donk!
yeah, no. legally she is caitlyn, now decent terms should be used, but it is understandable in the legal world,as reports were packed out when she was still presenting as he, but now its common courtesy, or can i call you whatever i feel like it, is that ok Maam? or should that be Master? since you are hiding behind a stupid alias, hard to determine, but i think few woman use Hound in their names.
if guilty, its state or county, its a misdemeanor, so not segregated if county, its just jail. but since is a celebrity, will be in a different area than general i would think, just as they put most police, etc because they become targets
I’m not at all a fan of the entire Kardashian/Jenner horde, but most of you people commenting gravely need to step down off your high pony. Who here can say they’ve NEVER driven over the speed limit? Everyone does it. Most of us are just fortunate enough that no one has ever slammed on their brakes in front of us at the time.
Yes, true majority do go a little over speed limit but cautious responsible drivers pay attention to the road! Fender benders are result going a little over and tailgating, but he slammed not bumped. lexus’s are pretty sturdy cars so to shove the car he had to of been going mighty prompt
did you even read the article, she (then he) was driving BELOW the posted limit, it was on a “tricky and curvy” part of the road, and the issue was the prius had STOPPED, howe, the 2nd car, was attempting to stop, or did but Caitlyn didnt see it in time to stop, for whatever reason. they have NO other infraction to put the blame on her other than the nebulous “driving at unsafe speeds for the road conditions”.
as to sturdy, you havent seen many newer lexus’s have you, some of them are pretty much like most cars, its more a name than a real superb car, unless you buy one of the upper end models, like most brands. she was also still moving, so not as much as you might think, also the collision might have had her hitting the gas peddle, either in confusion, or by accident.
Caitman Jenner Brings A Entire Fresh Meaning To Manslaughter.
If a man committed a crime, turns into a woman, gets charged with that crime that it made while a man, as a woman.
What pen does it go to?
Jenner was not the cause of the crash, it shows up the Lexus driver was the one who caused it so that is the person who should be charged. Not Jenner, this is Bullshit just because she is a “celebrity” these haters always want to blame them.
She may not have been the cause of the accident inbetween the lexus and the prius true BUT her unsafe driving CAUSED ANOTHER accident resulting in death. She needs to be charged for creating another accident resulting in death. It just so happens to be her, celebrity status has nothing to do with this….she was driving unsafely for (what looks like foggy conditions). If it had been a jane joe or johhny joe it would have happened a little different ie that person would have been booked instead of given a ticket. That is the only thing her “celebrity status” has done was a ticket and she walked.
Nilah, there was another ” celebrity ” involved in this accident, and she is infrequently mentioned. As for ” Jane Doe” , this seems to be what Howe ( the deceased ) and Jessica Steindorff (the actress ) were attempting to accomplish (that is, IF all went well) in evading the Police while driving with expired and suspended licenses. I hope Jenner gets off because those two should NOT have been in her path at all, therefore no accident. Attempt drinking coffee if all you have is tea. (same principle).
When some people are involved in a car accident whereupon someone tragically dies, they cannot treat the truth and perhaps Jenner has determined to distance himself from the truth due to guilt related issues like if he hadn’t been there that day, would A-B-C have happened so if he He most likely would have been best at a shrink after accident and with the decent help maybe would not have determined he therefore did not want this to happen to him, needed to attempt and become a woman. As if the woman (cait) had no involvement in accident therefore he was not at accident. Sounds more like schizophrenia and media has helped to elevate mental problems.
This is an interesting take on things. However you are confused as to what Schizophrenia is as it has nothing to do with two personalities in the same figure or man/woman issues. It’s a disease that causes the victim to have a false perception of what is real and what isn’t. There is often audio/visual hallucinations and the person affected can’t separate the two. I’m mentioning this as I worked in a home helping these people and they want others to know they don’t have Numerous Personality Disorder which is something fully different and many of them work hard to educate the public about what Schizophrenia actually is.
I agree with you in believing that anyone involved in an accident resulting in death should be counselled and seen by a shrink as the stress must be tremendous and as you said with media attention, it would be much worse.
I’m not sure of the laws in the US as I’m from Canada, but I believe that before anyone can go through a gender switch they are required to see a Shrink more than once before it can be done.
hether, Cait or Bruce, I think the entire thing is just very sad. So many of the remarks here are just fierce and it shows the way people are. At least you looked below the surface for some understanding.
I doubt anyone here hasn’t at least once, gone quicker in bad weather conditions than they should have, but it’s comforting to blame someone else for the same thing they’ve done, I guess.
wow, that is the MOST foolish excuse yet for someone being trans. i am sure she could produce medical records displaying her aborted transition in the 80’s, but maybe she was just doing that “in case” something happened, right? this is NOT a unexpected thing, any good therapist will NOT condone transition or surgery if there are unresolved mental issues. if she is NOT trans, and it comes out, especially AFTER the surgery, they could and some HAVE lost their licenses, been sued, etc for failing at this duty, which is why they have a two therapist recommendation BEFORE surgery. they are human and her regular therapist could become emotionally involved where the 2nd is supposed to be not biased, but BOTH careers are in jeopardy if they were to sign off, which she says she already has.
being in an accident, especially one where someone died and you were part of it, if not the cause, is traumatic and a lot of people need help to deal with it, but supposing that is why she is transitioning is just stupid, sorry to be blunt.
If Bruce is guiltless. Then why is the DA taking the case? Even if he is a celeb no diff. He was a corporate in the accident. Rewind the facts back in Feb. Maybe PEEPS are hatin’ the fakin’! OJ reflection here he’s an old athlete celeb committed a crime wheres OJ now. Celeb status don’t mean a thing. Its a misdemeanor. So he’ll get probate maybe community service , Oh ya a serious reality check on why you dot speed, text and drive! PEACE!!
um they arent, the police introduced the facts to the DA, they have not determined to press charges that i have seen. they HAVE to take the case introduced, but they may chose NOT to pursue the case, according to a statement, it is a 50/50 chance a case like this will go to trial.
and SHE was NOT speeding, read the article, someone mentioned it looked foggy, not in any of the pics i eyed, it was NOON or later, uncommon in the LA,area even in malibu if i recall correctly. the stop movability camera is black and white, so maybe they are thinking it was based on that?
Obviously you people know nothing about law, he or she was caught in the middle of an unfortunate accident… no way is it manslaughter